Also that all vaccines save lives is obviously wrong. An example is the Diphtheria-Tetanus-Pertussis (DTP) vaccine. It did cause a lower deathrate from DTP, but it caused a higher deathrate over all. This shows us that measuring the amount of people dying from covid in relation to vaccination status is the wrong approach. We have to look…
Also that all vaccines save lives is obviously wrong. An example is the Diphtheria-Tetanus-Pertussis (DTP) vaccine. It did cause a lower deathrate from DTP, but it caused a higher deathrate over all. This shows us that measuring the amount of people dying from covid in relation to vaccination status is the wrong approach. We have to look at other causes of deaths as well
This uncritical view of vaccines led to the death of a lot of kids
I'm not going to argue the benefits of vaccines, sorry. There are few things which have improved the human condition in the aggregate despite there being some side effects in an individual sense. Regarding any one of this, including Covid, the data is overhewlmingly present in multiple places that if you're asking for data over here that's not a question which I care to answer, since the motivation behind to me is suspect.
I was not arguing vaccines over all, you are straw-manning me. If I criticize the bureaucratic process in which OxyContin was approved do I criticize all medications?
I agree that there is a lot of data that show that covid vaccines cause fewer covid deaths in a specific time period. That is not the data I am looking for
Also that all vaccines save lives is obviously wrong. An example is the Diphtheria-Tetanus-Pertussis (DTP) vaccine. It did cause a lower deathrate from DTP, but it caused a higher deathrate over all. This shows us that measuring the amount of people dying from covid in relation to vaccination status is the wrong approach. We have to look at other causes of deaths as well
This uncritical view of vaccines led to the death of a lot of kids
https://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pmc/articles/PMC5868131/
Does this mean that the covid vaccines killed more people? No. All I am asking for is that proper data is given
I'm not going to argue the benefits of vaccines, sorry. There are few things which have improved the human condition in the aggregate despite there being some side effects in an individual sense. Regarding any one of this, including Covid, the data is overhewlmingly present in multiple places that if you're asking for data over here that's not a question which I care to answer, since the motivation behind to me is suspect.
I was not arguing vaccines over all, you are straw-manning me. If I criticize the bureaucratic process in which OxyContin was approved do I criticize all medications?
I agree that there is a lot of data that show that covid vaccines cause fewer covid deaths in a specific time period. That is not the data I am looking for